Today, at the Rider magazine-sponsored Opening Celebration to kick off the 35th annual Americade Rally in upstate New York, the public got its first look at what Yamaha calls “the ultimate trans-continental touring motorcycle,” the 2018 Star Venture. If you’re expecting a typical dressed Harley or Honda Gold Wing clone, however, think again. The Star Venture is a daring blend of modern and traditional luxury-touring bike features and styling with an impressive list of standard technology and a sporty, muscular look.
Yamaha boasts that the Star Venture is the most technologically advanced, most fully featured touring bike on the market, and a rundown of its specs and standard equipment builds a strong case. A thoroughly redesigned version of the 1,854cc (113ci) air-cooled Roadliner V-twin engine pumps out a claimed 126 lb-ft of torque and has a 6-speed transmission. There’s a Park Assist System with electric forward and reverse, a Bluetooth-enabled infotainment system with a 7-inch, full-color LCD touchscreen, and a full complement of rider aids such as cruise control, drive modes, traction control, tire pressure monitoring and linked ABS brakes.
Comfort and ergonomic features include heated seats with an adjustable, heated rider backrest and heated passenger backrest, heated grips, electric windscreen, cowl deflectors and vents, and adjustable handlebars and levers. Adding the optional “TC” (Trans-Continental) package gets you GPS navigation, CB and Sirius XM satellite radios, LED fog lights, an alarm, dual-zone audio and passenger storage compartments. With 144 liters of total storage capacity and a 6.55-gallon fuel tank, the Star Venture certainly seems ready to prove its “ultimate trans-continental touring motorcycle” title.
An aggressive, sporty front fairing with a bank of four LED headlights for safety is mounted to the frame rather than the fork, for more stable handling at speed and easier parking lot maneuvering. Things get more “cruiser” behind the fairing, with the big V-twin prominently on display, long floorboards that let you move your feet back and forth and belt final drive. The bike rides on radial tires with an enormous 200-series tire in back. A cavernous trunk that will easily hold two full-face helmets tops the distinct three-piece luggage that includes large top-opening side cases and central locking in a sleek design that melds with the bike’s lines.
Prior to Americade, Rider’s Editor-in-Chief took a 2-hour test ride on an early sample of the Star Venture TC, and found it to be an exciting blend of contemporary luxo-touring features and strong V-twin power with a great rumble. Dual counterbalancers eliminate any annoying vibration without suppressing the satisfying pulse feel from the rubber-mounted engine, and the V-twin accelerates with a rush up to its redline of just 4,750 rpm and makes plenty of power for fully loaded two-up touring. The new 6-speed transmission with an assist-and-slipper clutch shifts smoothly and easily and drops the revs into the basement in sixth gear on the highway.
Like most air-cooled big V-twins there’s some noticeable engine heat at low speeds, but the air management system comprising the electric windscreen, adjustable cowl deflectors and closeable lower vents blows the heat away at speed yet provides a warm, mostly still pocket of air for the rider and passenger on cooler days. Handling and braking are at least on par with the best in this class and the manually adjustable suspension provides good control with comfortable compliance. Spacious, comfortable seating with a low rider’s seat and easy reach to the ground should make the Star Venture easy to live with on tour as well.
The 2018 Star Venture will be available later this year in Granite Gray or Raspberry Metallic, for $24,999 (the TC version is $26,999); both come with a 1-year warranty that can be extended to 5 years with the optional Yamaha Extended Service plan. We’re looking forward to getting our hands on one for a thorough tour test. To see and hear it in action, watch Yamaha’s official Star Venture video below.
Wow, I can’t wait to hear other comments because I’m speechless. I’d say that now I’ve seen it all but it seems that all I’ve seen before is right here. Raspberry? Yep, that about says it all . . .
At that price point, I’d expect active electronic suspension for sure. I don’t see a mention of cruise control, but no bike could be considered a true touring bike without electronic cruise and I’m guessing it simply not listed in this article. Traction control is also not listed, but at this price point should certainly be included.
Cruise control and traction control are both standard features (as stated in the second paragraph), but the suspension system is not electronically adjustable or semi-active.
Then how is this motorcycle going to compete with the BMW GT?
I would think this might have a say>>
Brand Percent failed
Yamaha/Star 11%
Suzuki 12
Honda 12
Kawasaki 15
Victory 17
Harley-Davidson 26
Triumph 29
Ducati 33
BMW 40
Can-Am 42
And then there’s that scarcity of dealerships for the brand with 40 after its name.
Yamaha has always been a trouble free investment in fun..
Nice.!!
Why would one compare a V Twin with an Inline 6, they are completely different approaches, to the touring experience, ther’s very little similarity?
They’re completely different bikes, personally being a tall guy I would take the Yamaha over the BMW. I like a big bike I can stretch out on, vs a compact motorcycle forcing my long limbed body into a tight, cramped riding position.
I think the picture came up over the lower portion of that paragraph first time I read the article, so yes traction control and cruise control were mentioned and are included, however it still seems far over priced for a Japanese air cooled V-twin without semi-active electronic suspension. As someone else pointed out, the BMW K1600 has more power, and electronic suspension, and I think it now comes standard with cornering ABS as well as cornering traction control, and with a water cooled engine it’s not going to roast you or the engine when stuck in traffic.
Ride much down south? When a water cooled motorcycle reaches a specific temperature the cooling fans come on drawing cooler air through the front of the radiator and exiting the rear of the radiator, generally where the rider is!
Sitting at a multi direction intersection waiting for the green light will roast you down here in the south regardless of what you are riding……………….
I’ve had water cooled motorcycles, and the radiators dump lots of hot air, it’s similar to being outside by a window AC unit. I haven’t ridden a truly cool motorcycle.
I’ve ridden in the South, north, Midwest (no treat there either at 100 degrees and 75%humidity)
A well designed liquid cooled bike, where the engineers took into account the waste heat from the radiator dumps little to no heat on the rider. An air cooled V-twin will ALWAYS roast the rider when sitting still and even when moving. There is no worse configuration that I can think of when it comes to riding in hot weather than an air cooled V-twin.
If you think YOU are hot, think about the heat soaking into all those engine components, oil, electronics etc from an air cooled V-twin with nothing to move the heat away from the bike. Even a poorly designed liquid cooled bike that dumps heat on the riders, at least moves the heat out of the engine. We have even gotten into the advantages of constant operating temperatures as it applies to the tighter manufacturing tolerances it allows, the increase in operating efficiency and power per cc of displacement it affords.
As a means of cutting costs, allowing sloppier manufacturing tolerances, ease of rebuilding (and the NEED to rebuild more frequently due to accumulated heat wear) etc, sure, an air cooled V-twin can’t be beat.
read the article again it does talk about traction control
And also cruise control.
Go back and read the article again.
You need to read the article again, it mentions all of that.
Totally agree. The electronics package for suspension, traction control, off axis anti lock brakes seem to be seriously lacking. I own a Stratoliner S , and it is a fine cruiser, but I paid way less than 27K . This model is going to take a heavy pounding from its competition, and stay glued to the showroom floor.
My Strat S, NOS 2007 purchased in 2009 for under $10k, is the best $10k bike ever, even if third gear drops out and doesn’t kill me. If I ever want a new bike it will be an Indian Vintage,
09 bought 06 strat for 6800 with 6800 miles. Best deal ever. 84.000 later. Tires and oil baby
Re read the equipment list. It has cruise and electriconic breaks as well as electric reverse !
It’s got it all!
EXCEPT electronic suspension, variable suspension, cornering ABS, water cooling, etc., etc. Depends what you mean by “all” I guess.
HD FY LOOK AT THIS BEAST…
I have a Roadliner S and this beast smokes it…
So Sad it’s not a Harley…..
🙂
Face it, you can’t afford a Harley or you would ride one.
I’m eager to see how it fairs next to the venerable but long-in-tooth Goldwing in the performance dept. given how well the Roadliner/Stratoliner platform handled. Visually and on paper, this set the Wing back another 10 years.
Or how about the 6 cylinder BMW GT for less money and more torque, plus active ELECTRONIC suspension and clutchless shifting?
The BMW may have more torque around 5,000 rpm’s where it’s of little use because these are touring bikes and who rides them at 5,000 rpm’s, I’m only running about 2,500 at 70 mph. With a redline of 4,750, I’m guessing the Yamaha would smoke the BMW down low where torque is actually useful.
Actually, no less than 72% of the BMWs maximum torque is available from 1500 RPM to it’s 8500 RPM redline, same for the 160 HP output. The BMW also gets around 50MPG, vs I think 39 I saw listed somewhere for the Yamaha.
I don’t think for an instant the Yamaha is going to smoke the BMW. It may or may not beat it, I have no idea, but it won’t be a one sided race.
Also, the 0-60 times aren’t what are important to a touring bike, it’s the power to get around traffic quickly or pull up 12% mountain pass fully loaded at 60 MPH. Both bikes would likely be right in their sweet spot for torque and horsepower. I’m far more concerned with 60-100 MPH times than I am with 0-45.
No way the Yamaha is in the same area code with the GT, whether off the line, roll on, or top speed. Period. Completely different motorcycles. Yamaha more akin to the HD Milwaukee motor/gearing.
That’s my point, down low where torque is important for a touring bike, I’m thinking the Yamaha would actually make more torque, possibly significantly more. With a redline of 4,750 and maximum torque of 122 foot pounds, the Yamaha has to be producing maximum torque almost right off idle, so I would believe that the Yamaha makes more torque than the BMW’s 90.3 at 1500 rpm’s.
Dan, there no way to assume what the torque is on the Yamaha, unlikely it’s at 1500 RPM. Also, that’s torque percentage quoted was the worst case scenario. The reason the BMW is only producing 160 horse power is because BMW tuned the engine for that super and smooth power band. You can pretty much be going along in 6 th gear at idle and dial in the power without downshifting and accelerate smoothly without stumble, hesitation or shakiness. I can’t imagine any v-twin I’ve ever been in that you can say that about, not a VTX 1800, an Indian, or Harley’s M8 engine.
Also, the BMW weighs hundreds less which makes a LOT of difference.
The low redline tells you the Yamaha makes it’s maximum torque at very low rpm’s, that’s not assuming anything.
Brian what type of bike did you say you own? I dint believe I got that. What Yamaha/Star have done I’d given free thinking riders another vey viable option that focuses on what they get from their research as important to segment riders. I ride a 2017 Gildwing and I can tell you I don’t run with a lot of v twins but more of those BMW guys your so concerned with. My guess is you have a 70’s big inline 4 so you certainly know all about comparisons.
Actually, the Yamaha makes 126 foot pounds of torque at 2500 rpm’s, not the 122 reported here. The Yamaha also has belt drive which transfers more of the power to the rear wheel than shaft drive. Since the BMW makes it’s maximum torque at 5,250 rpm’s which is only 3 foot pounds more than the Yamaha makes at 2,500, I am confident that the Yamaha has more torque down low in the rpm range people actually ride.t
I’ve owned a lot of different bikes through the years from a Yamaha XJ550 to 1200 Sportster to an old 90 ZX6, a new 2013 ZX6R-636. I’ve ridden, as test drives, 2017 Harleys, 2016 Indians, both small and large models. I currently do own a 70s bike, however not an online 4… I own a 1976 R75/6, an R1200RT and a Burgman 650.
I’m not really knocking the bike itself as much as I am questioning their pricing for what MOST would perceive as a non-premium brand, especially using air cooled engine. The fact they are using an air cooled V-Twin shows either cost-cutting measures or the attempt to directly compete with HD & Indian head-to-head in the premium priced (not necessarily premium quality) market. I don’t doubt that this bike is likely better built and will have a lower repair history than either of these two makes, but they also have to compete with mind-set. The other bikes, such as the BMW K1600GT, and what you can get for the same or less money, aren’t in direct competition, but show what kinds of power/performance/rider aids that are available in other platforms and could have been built into this bike at this price point were they not attempting to duplicate an American touring bike’s looks/engine configuration.
Sure the Yamaha will smoke the BMW. I’ve had six BMW’s (R65,R80RT, R100rt,K75s, R1150RT, and K1300) , each marching further and further away from straight forward simplicity into ultra high tech, and each newer one spent more time on the work bench than the preceding one; and the recalls-something maddening to say the least . On the other hand, I also have a 2000 Yamaha Venture Royal Star with 96,000 miles on it. Other than basic maintenance (oil/air filters, tires,etc., the only thing I’ve done to the Yammie is correct the only two weak points (well known), change the shock to a Hagon rebuildable (at 65,000 miles no less) and replace the clutch spring with a Barnett coil clutch spring setup. You can’t out perform any one when it’s sitting on a mechanic’s work bench waiting for parts.
Sounds like someone didn’t do their research before posting. Take a look at the GT’s torque curve (and note the 129 ft. lbs. it has).
That’s my point, down low where torque is important for a touring bike, I’m thinking the Yamaha would actually make more torque, possibly significantly more. With a redline of 4,750 and maximum torque of 122 foot pounds, the Yamaha has to be producing maximum torque almost right off idle, so I would believe that the Yamaha makes more torque than the BMW’s 90.3 at 1500 rpm’s.
Yeah the BMW has 129 foot pounds of torque at 5,250 rpm’s. Do you ride at that high of rpm’s on a touring bike, because I sure don’t. The Yamaha has 122 foot pounds and redlines at 4,750 so it is producing its maximum torque at lower rpm’s than the BMW, possibly much lower. That would mean down low the Yamaha might actually have an advantage in torque.
Last comment since I don’t think we’re getting anywhere. Look at the torque CURVE, not where torque is at max. It’s comparing apple’s and oranges. The GT is like a Mercedes AMG; this Yamaha, HD, etc. is like a diesel truck. Easy to rumble along, a kick in the pants when you twist the throttle. The GT will lift the front wheel at any rpm in the first 4 gears, run with a sportbike, OR tool along in 6th at 70 and 2000 rpm. Just a much wider application. PLUS, 6 cylinders, water cooling, electronic & variable suspension, cornering ABS, etc, etc, etc. All for about the same price. Buy the one you’ll ride. Peace.
I haven’t seen a torque curve for this bike, but torque is torque. If a bike makes more torque at the rear wheel at the same rpm as another bike, then it has more power at that rpm. And frankly if I was going to get a BMW, I would take the R 1200 RT over the K 1600 GTL any day. A full 164 pounds lighter, makes .207 HP per pound of weight vs .208 HP for the K 1600, .152 foot pounds of torque per pound of weight for the RT vs .168 foot pounds for the K 1600. Slight power advantage for the K, but huge weight savings for the RT. I don’t consider a 768 pound bike a sport tourer, and before someone says it’s not marketed as a sport tourer, why does it have sport tourer ergos. Weights are fueled and these numbers along with HP and torque ratings all come from BMW’s own website, I used a calculator to arrive at the figures.
THIS BIKE IS GEARED TO THE HD AND CRUISER FANS WHO LIKE THAT SOUND AND FEEL,SO IT IS NOT IN THE SAME FIELD AS THE BMW.I DO A LOT OF GROUP RIDING WITH FOLKS RIDING VARIOUS BRANDS AND RIDING STYLES SO THIS WILL NOT BE A FIT ALL BIKE.BUT FOR ME, I WILL DEFINITELY TAKE A TEST DRIVE WHEN IT COMES AVAILABLE.
Seems we have die hard HD and BMW fans weighing in on this new bike and that’s great,I own both HD,Kawasaki and Indian bikes and must confess they all three have there strengths/weaknesses but from a reliabilty standpoint customer complaints with HD and BMW are not there strengths.Outlining its findings, Consumer Reports says that one-in-four Harley-Davidson owners experience a major problem with their machine, while an even more staggering one-in-three BMW owners made a similar complaint. Contrast those figures with Yamaha, which saw similar reports in only one-in-ten of its owners, with Kawasaki and Honda owners posting similar figures.
Seems we have die hard HD and BMW fans weighing in on this new bike and that’s great,I own both HD,Kawasaki and Indian bikes and must confess they all three have there strengths/weaknesses, but from a reliability standpoint customer complaints with HD and BMW are not there strengths.Outlining its findings, Consumer Reports says that one-in-four Harley-Davidson owners experience a major problem with their machine, while an even more staggering one-in-three BMW owners made a similar complaint. Contrast those figures with Yamaha, which saw similar reports in only one-in-ten of its owners, with Kawasaki and Honda owners posting similar figures.
Sounds like you should add a Yamaha to your fleet!
I rode the K1600, low-end torque sucked.
Stick with the lawmower motors, Jim!
I have tried the BMW several times. While there is nothing specifically wrong with the bike, for me it seems like it is missing some sole. While I am not a big HD fan, their bikes have a sole – whether you like it or not is up to you. For me, a bike is somewhere in between the BMW and HD – it has to speak to me. It is not something that I can fully explain, but is also different for everyone. Add BMW’s lack of dealer network, reliability issues, and service costs, the cost of the BMW will most like greatly exceed the cost of owning the Yamaha.
You mean SOUL.
I’ve owned several Yamahas and Beemers. I won’t debate the merits of each other than to say all were enjoyable for what they claimed to be and offer. What has turned me off on BMW’s is the high cost of maintenance and repair. When you buy a BMW today you are locked into getting them serviced at their dealerships due to their proprietary computer servicing program. Independant repair shops either can’t get the the computer or can’t afford it. 2 yrs ago, BMW dealerships had to pay the factory $900 monthly lease for the computer and software. How do I know? Was on a trip and had a esa problem and could not get it looked at by a dealer because of a failed overnight software update. Luckily it wasn’t a disabling problem, so I could continue.
I have found Yamahas to be very reliable and service reasonably priced with a good dealer network. If I was in the market for a full blown tourer, the Venture warrants serious consideration. The Stratoliner I had was a high end fun bike which I did a lot of touring on.
I can’t wait to take one out for a test ride !!
Why in this day and age did Yamaha go with air cooled v twin?
Probably because their 113 cu is dependable. I love my Strat. Nicer than any Road King that I road. This may or may not be the holy grail, but I’m happy that Yamaha didn’t get rid of the push rod engine. Most fun I ever had ride a bike. I’ll keep me Liner for now though. Only have 16k on it and no real touring plans to speak of, at least not $26,000 worth. That twice what the Strat cost me new.
I’m happy my bike has push rods, no more of those expensive valve checks, and adjustments.
My thoughts too. Why air cooled on an 1800 cc twin? As an owner of a Royal Star Tour Deluxe (2009; last year for the RSTD), I was very disappointed. Thought Yamaha would have had enough sense to stick with the venerable water cooled V4 and nearly maintenance-free shaft drive. Adding fuel injection instead of the 4 carbs is great as is a 6 th gear and some cool electronics. But overall I think the new Venture is a step backward with its V twin engine and air cooling. Price tag seems a bit high too. As for Yamaha build quality and reliabilty, I can tell you as the owner of 3 , they are fantastic.
What is the most popular bike on the road today? And are they air cooled? Nuff said!
I was thinking the same thing. A contemporary bike with an air cooled engine? Not very good for riding out west in hot climates. While in Texas a few years ago on my liquid cooled Kawasaki, I rarely saw a Harley on the interstate. The fuel tank seems a little small at 6 1/2 gallons?
As soon as I saw Air Cooled… the air went out of me. I’ve owned their Venure Royals in the 80’s, and now ride a Goldwing, Air cooled long distance… no way. Coming back from Canada, 2 years ago, I went through California in 100 + degree heat… This Yamaha would melt along with the rider. Also, Belt Drive… Not smart for touring thru all weather conditions.
Belt drive works just fine, requires no fluids, and transfers more power to the rear wheel than shaft drive.
I’ve been running Yamaha cruisers for 10 years, and not one has ever let me down. My mindset is to always have a Yamaha in my garage. I started with the Yamaha 1300 V-Star, moved to the 1600 Road Star, and now I own the the best poor man’s Chopper on the road. The Yamaha Raider- a bad M…..F…. All of these bike spanned a series of 10 years.
I also own a Victory Cross bike, who’s days are numbered. If for some reason something goes wrong, I’m going full Yamaha! I absolutely Love the torque of that big 113!
I’m with you Donald M McKnight. I have a Victory CCT and was really disappointed Polaris cancelled the line. I am curious to see how this thing handles the curves. The CCT is awesome in the twisties, so curious if this one could be my replacement also. Time will tell. Yamaha builds good machines. My first one was a Maxim back in 1981.
When I saw the Venture in person, the first thing I thought was that it could have easily been the next Vision. I am currently a CCT owner and love the bike. I did own a Roadliner back in the day. I loved the motor in that bike. Didn’t like the 5 speed, small tank and lack of cruise control. They have resolved those issues with this bike. This bike looks like the one that currently most likely to get my dollars.
I totally agree. While I hoped for a four cylinder engine I have spent hours looking at the engine, transmission and over all concept, I am sold. The ride will tell the tale I understand but I believed enough to put my money down on it. I honestly do not believe it will be a mistake. I was riding my Goldwing this morning and got behind a Roadliner going to the dealership and when we left the red light I was really excited to hear the rumble of that 1854 motor. Yamaha has convinced me to this point they hit the nail on the head.
HD = Hands Down FY= From Yamaha
God Help Them….
(The Competition)
They might want to have a Snicker cause they will not be themselves…. lol
I see the japs have copied bmw…honda…kawasaki….harley…and a little bit of polaris too-plus they copied themselves. How do you do that?- there isn’t an original piece of tech or thought into this yacht- pricing is comparable with the USA domestics,however this bikes resale value will sink faster than a quarter going into a wishing well.
This will be a great ride for those anti american riders who just don’t get it-
Good luck yamabike….imitation is the highest form of flattery-
IDK you can’t beat realibilty and performance Harley can’t match. If you buy a bike to flip buy a Harley if you want performance and realibilty without using your kids college fund get a Yamaha.
Why would I buy something planing to sell it? I would just not buy and save the money, that concept is flawed.
LOL, anti american. So tell me, what bike is American?
Hey duke, You need to lighten up on that koolaide. Likely over 1/2 of the stuff you own, including the electronic components on any motorcycle, are imports. I am a Yamaha Venture rider that has the U.S. flag flying 24/7. I served my country doing a full combat tour in Nam. I don’t give a whip what anyone rides but don’t accuse riders that ride imports of being anti America. That being said, I like the looks of the new Venture with all the upgrades but I wish it had that old trusty V4 that us Venture riders are use to.
Duke, No need to be condescending to your fellow bike riders and Americans. I spent 21 years in the army, am a combat Veteran, and I ride a Yamaha Royal Star Venture. I bought it new and have put over 50, 000 miles on it so far. It has been a great bike and comfortable. Before that I rode a BMW K1200, 2 Harleys, , a Goldwing and about 10 other motorcycles over the last 40 years. I bet you are one of those riders that refuse to wave to me on my Vemture even though I have owned 2 Harleys. I also bet you don’t have any experience with the Venture or you would know how reliable Yamahas really are. The Yamaha Venture, unlike my 2 Harleys, has never let me down traveling across this country and Canada. Not trashing Harleys, just giving you my experience with them although I have never owned the Milwaukee Eight, but hear good things about them. We don’t need you or anyone else to preach to us experienced riders about what is or isn’t a good motorcycle or a good American. Enjoy your ride and let others do the same.
Amen!!!!!!!!
I am a Harley Ultra Limited owner and I can honestly say that you are getting a lot more for your money for this bike than the Ultra Limited. The stock engine is bigger, you get heated seats, backrests, and grips. Harley no longer provides a CB, which is now available for extra purchase as well as the XM radio. This bike comes with the lower fog lights. It comes with different rid modes that Harley does not offer at all. There are more things to list but my point is, Harley wants to be the top dog but always is falling behind with standard equipment offerings. Their mode is to offer a basic option set and have you spend 1000s on add on’s/upgrades. The warranty is better than Harley and Harley has their fair share of mechanical issues. Believe me I have a love hate relationship with Harley and maybe bikes like this will cause Harley to make some changes. It is already a known fact that their numbers are dwindling with the younger market segment.
Indian isn’t forcing Harley to make changes. If they do it’ll be another five years. I have a 92 K75S with ABS. What, it took years for Harley to offer that option. Why don’t they have traction control?
HD needs to make changes for a new generation and they are doing it to some degree, but doing it cautiously. The Street 750 looks nice. The V-Rod’s are nice but the slammed suspensions and feet forward foot pegs on these bikes are ridiculous. Some have 2 inches of travel.
The Yamaha looks good, has nice options. It may run well for years. No way I’d have one. The price is way to high when Harley & BMW are in the range. The Harley has brand identity, the BMW has mature options and name recognition. Nobody dreams of owning a Yamaha. They settle. “Just as good as a Harley!” Sure but people still prefer Harley’s. I’ve had 3 Harley’s they cost fat cash and don’t offer half of what a BMW is the range as far as options. I got another BMW.
But if your like Yamahas by all means get a Yamaha.
Actually I bleed Yellow and Black from the old days of Yamaha. I have not been this excited about a bike since I bought my first Yamaha R-1! Some do dream about Yamaha, I just happen to be one of them.
I put 90,000 on my 2006 strat with no issues. Tires and oil. Boy did it love tires. 113 is a beast. Great motor in a love or hate design. Bullit proof
I love my Goldwing but this will be its replacement!
Ugly and overpriced
BETTER BIKE AND YAMAHA FIT,FINISH AND RELIABILITY… OVERPRICED????? PUT ALL OF WHAT THIS BIKE HAS ON A HARLEY AND YOU ARE UP INTO THE MID 30S. WHATS OVERPRICED??? BECAUSE IT SAYS H-D???
Actually Harleys have great fit and finish.
I think they have given all the venture riders all they have asked for and then some. Hats off to Yamaha.
Except water cooling and electronically adjustable and variable suspension, which you get on the BMW GT (for less money) and GTL.
And the pro-HD comments: How far has your bike dropped in value since the vastly overpriced Milwaukee bikes arrived?
Give it up, there is a reason the BMW’s are so cheap. No one wants a trailer queen that spends 40% pf it’s life on a jack being repaired.
Based on list price, I could get a 6 cylinder Goldwing. Air cooled v-twin, belt drive….Sorry Yamaha….You blew it. Might have a lot of bells and whistles but pedigree of the Venture lies in the VMax motor – liquid cooled 4 cylinder, shaft drive. If I wanted a vtwin for a touring bike (which I wouldn’t be interested in less than 4 cylinders and liquid cooled)…there are other more affordable bikes that are vtwins. I’ll keep my 2009 second generation RSV.
Don , I love the look and the features, but why a Vtwin with pushrods, unless they were aiming for torque figures. no mention of the number of horses though. even if i could afford a new bike , i would stick to my RSV over this
What’s wrong with belt drive? A belt is second only to a chain in transferring power to the rear wheel, in fact a shaft drive is the worst.
Belt is best!
Cool, but the saddlebags are ugly, not quite proportioned to the rest of the bike.
I wouldn’t be seen on this motorcycle even if they gave it to as a gift… I will stick with my Harley anyday….
Attitudes like that are what give us HD riders a bad rep. Please keep your Harley elitist comments to yourself.
Thanks, Carl!
Yep, seems some Harley owners think if you are riding an import now that you must not have ever owned a Harley. They might be surprised to learn that you know as much about Harleys from experience as they do, while they know little or nothing about your import. I wave at all bikers and speak to them. If they chose not to reciprocate, they have the problem and not me.
AND YOU WOULD PUSH IT ANYWHERE OVER RIDING A BIKE MADE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY?????
Why do you come to this forum?
Beautiful bike with tons of power, looks, and features! A reasonable price and blows GW, HD, and the Roadmaster out of the water!
As far as comparing it to a Beemer….i can’t consider that a comparable touring bike…wouldn’t have one!
Yeah, but its fair to compare the technology that you get for about the same price.
This is what I look at when I buy a bike because I want to ride, not fix.
Reliablity by brand
Brand Percent failed
Yamaha/Star 11%
Suzuki 12
Honda 12
Kawasaki 15
Victory 17
Harley-Davidson 26
Triumph 29
Ducati 33
BMW 40
Can-Am 42
I’m sure it’s fuel injected and not carburetors, but I’m not crazy about air cooled. I love that they kept the 5 year warranty!
BOOOOOOO Yamaha!!! All you had to do was design the new venture around the V-Max four and you’ve got a luxury touring bike that’s unique. Instead you now just have another wanna be. To think I’ve been waiting all these years for a replacement for my 2001 RSV. Well, at least I don’t have to wait any longer. Bye bye Yamaha…
Well said…
BMW is the last bike I would buy, and here’s why> they are amongst the most unreliable bikes on the market today.>>>
Reliablity by brand
Brand Percent failed
Yamaha/Star 11%
Suzuki 12
Honda 12
Kawasaki 15
Victory 17
Harley-Davidson 26
Triumph 29
Ducati 33
BMW 40
Can-Am 42
Well, the stylings different anyway, although it reminds me of the Kawi Voyager. I’ll keep riding my Goldwing.
I am selling my goldwing if this bike has decent wind protection. The goldwing beats my wife to death unless you add all the ugly adz wings along the fairing. You would think Honda would have figured that out after all these years. My old Yamaha Venture from 93 was a much better fairing and lowers. Love the Goldwing engine hate it on the interstate..
At 6’2″ and long legged, I found the Goldwing cramped when I rode one. The cruiser style touring bikes like the Yamaha here generally have plenty of room to stretch out and usually have no lower fairing in front to encroach upon the knees.
How does this new engine compare to my current Strat; they are both 113 so how well does the new technology put out more h.p.?
The HP rating is still the same but by adding the 6th gear and some tuning they’ve increased the torque about 10% over the Strat/Roadie. I’d love to have that 6-speed for my Roadie !!!! If you noticed the torque/RPM specs are about the same…
Hi tech or not; OMG it’s Fugly for 25 large.
Hey, it’s not for everyone, but it sure is an awesome addition to the Yamaha/Star line. I ride a Stratoliner for pleasure and a HD EG for work. Both great bikes, but the power and stout rumble of the 113 always makes me grin like a fool. Finally Y/S has a touring bike with lotsa bells and whistles. Cool I say… Dutchy
Weeeellll….I really had High hopes, But……
First…Standing in this Corner weighing in at a pavement rippling 963 pounds= Yamahahaha!! W/123 ft lbs HP=??
Second…. at 923 pounds is Honda G/W. W/122 ftlbs of torque & HP=117
Third…….. at 860 pounds is Harley Touring W/100 ft lbs of torque & HP=90
Fourth…..at 750 ponds is BMW GTL1600 with 126 ftlbs of torque Aaaaand 160HP.
So for my money the BMW wins hands down and the fact that it has ALL the high tech of TC, ABS, ESA ,heated everything, removable bags, 50 miles per gallon, a 7 gallon tank, adjustable windshield, etc etc. etc…. you get my point.
And lets not forget the BMW RT1200 which only weighs 55o pounds and its performance is similar to the GTL.
I just think Yamaha had a great opportunity to come out with something great but instead took the OLD direction of V-twin / air cooled low performing elephant. I mean a less than 5000 rpm redline?? Happy trails to those who buy one!! Just be sure to ride with others in a herd, cause if you should drop it you will need all their help.
An in your face loss for Polaris, an a big win for Yamaha.
Absolutely right. This is the bike that Victory could have and should have built, except for the fact that Menneto wanted to dump Victory in favor of Indian. I will be looking at this Yamaha when the time comes to replace my Victory Vision. That may be a long time though, since my Victory is so reliable.
Glad you like your Victory. As a former dealer I was glad to have sold that part of my dealership before the ship went down. Having had their watercraft when they pulled the plug on that I was Leary of that happening. I lost a good deal of money getting out of the left over watercraft back in the day. Polaris has one loyalty and that is to the stockholders as should be but that leaves their customers at a disadvantage when things go soft.
I like it, it took Yamaha long enough to come up with something new!
I ride an 01 Royal Star Venture, so i can’t wait to test drive the Star!
Wandering if they make a Trailer hitch for it?
I like it, it took Yamaha long enough to come up with something new!
I ride an 01 Royal Star Venture, so i can’t wait to test drive the Star!
Wandering if they make a Trailer hitch for it?
I can assure you that Yamaha will not have a trailer hitch due to liability reason but there are plenty of after market companies that will.
I would definitely choose this over the antiquated Goldwing. Took a Goldwing for a test ride and it left me so cold, I returned it to the dealership, parked it and left without saying a word to anyone.
Dan, you probably need to get out more, bud.
I have owned a BMW k1600 GT and they are extremely unreliable. They are also very top heavy. I currently ride a 2015 Ducati Multistrada S and it has proven to be more reliable than my BMW. Also, studies have shown that once a person gets their suspension set to the way they like, they do not touch it again. I am sure they went with this engine due to reliability. You can ride thousands of miles with no issues. For a long term investment, you cannot go wrong with a Yamaha. You may not get your money back in resale but, you will make it up with less repair costs, time in shop, and lost riding time.
Then why are you riding one of the more overpriced brands that has electronic suspension? P.S. Have well over 60K on my ’12 GT with nary a problem. I will say that major services are muy expensivo, though!
WOW!!! Is all I can say about this new bike. I will definitely be taking this out for a test ride when it becomes available .
Talking about Yamaha taking too long…..lost a lot up loyal owners that got tired of waiting. Might be hard to right that ship.
I think I’m missing something here. Is the market for $30K motorcycles really that big?
Wonder if it has the irritating gearbox whine that the 2nd Gen Ventures had? I hated that about my ’07.
I test rode 6 HD motorcycles before I bought the YAMAHA STAR Roadliner S 113 C.I…. Some people don’t get it, maybe they should start smoking another brand or quit smoking all together. My bike is not middle of the road and I can assure you this new bike will not disappoint…
https://www.flickr.com/photos/43201156@N06/17105407587/sizes/h/
You won’t squat for it on a trade. Better keep forever.
I put my money down and my GL1800 on craigslist yesterday. Raspberry Red for me please.
Had a Venture about 10 years ago and they are synonymous with a V4. Where’s my V4. Had a Stratoliner a few years back. Same motor as this and I bought the Strat brand new off the floor for 9k and change. Vtwin/air cooled? Don’t call it a Venture. I’ve been waiting so long for the bike dammit. Disappointed. I’m out.
This is NOT the Stratoliner Engine. Read about it. Brand new with slipper clutch and dual balancers. You jumped to conclusions.
Negative,,,this IS the same engine only with the different clutch setup and my 12 Roadie has dual balancers as well. The biggest change was adding the 6th gear. Might want to look at your manual again.
Why would I buy something planing to sell it? I would just not buy and save the money, that concept is flawed.
Read the post from Yamaha, brand new from the ground up engine.
I see some sparing between the BMW crowd and the Yamaha cheering squad. I have had several models of both brands. What has made the decision for me as to which brand is in my stable now is…dealer support. In my state we have one BMW dealer about 80 miles from my home. My closest neighboring state has zero. When on the road the last thing I want is a problem or needed part and their is no dealer support nor independent mechanics familiar with the brand. Currently my over the road bike is an Electra Glide for that reason….after having had 5 BMW’s in the past. This bike along with the Yamaha 1300 Deluxe tourer are now on my radar for a replacement. My ONLY concern is I have not read anything about ABS on this new model, a necessary ingredient, not an option as far as I am concerned.
Reread the article and I see “linked ABS”, great! Now I just need to convince mom!
I’ve reread the article and found that “linked ABS” is part of the specs, GREAT!
How ’bout this…
I love my 09 Venture…. I’d love to get a 18 Venture….
or how ’bout this…
I love my HD, my BMW, my GW, my (whatever)…
Why is it always “My brand is the ONLY one on the road that is any good at anything, and yours sucks”? C’mon people, grow up!
I spent a week in the mountains of Colorado on an UltraGlide… Nice bike… but I don’t want one to own.
I spent a week in the Smokeys on a Gold Wing… Nice bike… but I don’t want to own one of those either.
We own a Venture, because it’s the most comfortable for my wife!
If Mama ain’t happy…. then…. it don’t matter how much low end, top end, or electronic nonsense is on it! Know what I mean
So true Dan! It’s an introduction to Yamaha’s new machine and you have BMW, Harley riders spewing why this bike sucks. If I was childish enough I would go to HD and BMW sites and post for days on the negatives, Very sad.
I’m a Harley rider and have no issue with this bike other than the 34 mpg reported by Yamaha, as these figures are usually best case scenario.
Please tell me this new offering from Yamaha is fuel injected.
Is there any street motorcycle from a major manufacturer that ISN’T fuel injected out there?
Recall that, in the most recent iteration of this bike before this new release, at a time when virtually everyone had switched to fuel injection, Yamaha stuck with 4 carbs on this bike.
Yeah, and those four carbs always worked well, at least for the 96000 or so miles on my 2000 RSV. Everyone whines about it having carbs. What’s the point if the system works well? … and the carbs are soooo much smoother just off idle than their fuel injected counterparts, the earliest versions of which acted more like toggle switches than throttles ( although they have gotten better).
Having owned an 06 Midnight Venture previously, this is breath of fresh air. Since 99 Yamaha sold that 2nd gen Venture and I was disappointed in 2010 that they hadn’t updated and subsequently bought a HD. A little surprised they didn’t go with an air cooled version but still excited to see the 3rd gen Venture on the market.
How very interesting. I used to have an ’80s era Venture Royal, with all the bells and whistles. I LOVED that bike, but had to give it up, because we become parents and the pressure to be “responsible” crept in. I recently got back on a bike and ended up getting a ’13 Concours, and love it. However… this is giving me a little pause to head back into the full size touring realm again. I’ll just have to take it for a test drive and see!
why is everyone whining about the weight and air cooled engine. the wheight is pretty much in line with other large touring bikes and i like the feel of a big twin. the whieght adds to the stability and comfort. if you can’t handle the wheight get a dual sport . this is an awesome looking bike with just about every bell and whistle standard and will leave other manufacturers scrambling to catch up. it’s great to see an import not settling to be a scaled down H-D. honda created a cult following by doing the same with the wing and you can bet this bike is scaring them. yamaha pulled all the stops out and we can agrue that i like a 4 cylindar or a vmax motor better or it would be nice to have programable suspension or it needs more cup holders but in a side by side comparison with simalar models this will beat them a large percentage of the time. i don’t particulaly like the looks from the back or the oversized trunk but that wont keep me from buying one. and quit whining about perfomance. its not a crotch rocket, the torc this thing produces is more than enough foir a luxury tourer. i went from a road glide to a vulcan voyager and i can’t wait to trade up to one of these.
Exactly, my money is down on a Raspberry already!!!
I an on my second BMW K1600 GTL, almost 100,000 miles between the 2 and not one day lost to mechanical issues. Warranty made a few replacements that were all done at regular service intervals, so no problem there. Can’t imagine anyone needing more torque or horsepower loaded or unloaded than these deliver. Plenty of power in every climate from desert to Arkansas Pig trail to Daytona I’ve never been disappointed.
You’re extremely lucky.
Reliability by brand
Brand Percent failed
Yamaha/Star 11%
Suzuki 12
Honda 12
Kawasaki 15
Victory 17
Harley-Davidson 26
Triumph 29
Ducati 33
BMW 40
Can-Am 42
Presently have to BMWs and a Goldwing. I had a Yamaha super tenere and sold it when I bought the BMW 1200 GS. I think they are all awesome motorcycles. But in my opinion the best motor on the road is the Goldwing GL 1800 motor. I have written all over the US and to Alaska and I think it is absolutely awesome. But the BMW 1200 GS and the BMW K75 are lots of fun to ride to and probably more fun than the Goldwing. I have always thought Yamaha was good. But the consumer reports study cited must be understood. It was done on four year old motorcycles to ask for the incidence of repair. Most BMW Riders ride many more miles in a year than Yamaha Riders. And Harley Riders to probably period just saying you got to look at apples and apples
I’ve read most of the comments already posted, but my only question is why no water cooling? I like all the farkles, standard & optional, I also like the belt drive. It appears Yamaha has done their homework, but that high price from Yamaha is unusual.
Bikes looks pretty good but would have liked the venture to continue on with V4 from latest generation VMAX and shaft drive. With tax + prep it’s 30k out the door and then worth 20k. How about a basic model with no GPS, stereo, and other do dad’s. Just the bags + fairing and sell for 16k.
I think it’s a reasonably priced bike, in this day and age, and given all the included goodies. The list price on my 2012 Victory Cross Country Tour (“XCT”) was $22,500, as I recall (but I got it through a dealer who discounts, and also a veteran’s disount).
That XCT is a great handling bike, and has even more storage than the new Yammy. That said, even the $25K base Venture has gobs more features, such as ride-by-wire, heated backrests, carpeted trunk, LED saddlebag lights, electric reverse (and forward), electric windshield, TPMS, LED headlights, and on and on. Put another way, it comes pre-farkled.
The XCT gets hot, however, when – duh — it’s hot out, and you’re not moving. I’ve been on hotter bikes — a fun test ride on a Buell Ulysses one year, on a very hot day, comes to mind — but that doesn’t mean I have to like heat. I suppose that’s the price you pay for not having to change coolant every year or two, but if I were making that choice now I’d opt to do the maintenance.
We don’t know how hot the Venture gets — air- and oil-cooled, just like the Vic — but editor Tuttle seems to be the only one to have actually ridden one, and he noted:
“Like most air-cooled big V-twins there’s some noticeable engine heat at low speeds, but the air management system comprising the electric windscreen, adjustable cowl deflectors and closeable lower vents blows the heat away at speed yet provides a warm, mostly still pocket of air for the rider and passenger on cooler days.”
So, um, I’d be a little leery of that.
I’m migrating back to a 650 Burgman: electric windshield, mostly adequate power, and 250 lbs. lighter than the XCT … and 350 lbs. lighter than the Venture. At some point, you have to not mind muscling a lot of weight around, even if Yamaha has some spec about making it easier to get off the sidestand. At least they through in the electric forward and reverse.
I test road the BMW 1200LT years back, and found the Light Truck to be too tall and top-heavy for my tastes. And my buddy has a 1200RT, and I need to be on tip-toes at a stop. So, those bikes are light, but don’t cut it for me.
Now lets talk a little about leg position. Me, I’m a geezer. I’m not dead just yet — I’ve done two track days on the Vic within the last two years, and one on the Big Burger last year. And like my twisties.
Still, when I tour, I like to have my feet relaxed, which means out front … or down. You want out front on a ‘Wing, you need highway pegs, and long legs, and have them positioned wide, as if you’re in delivery-room stirrups. And can you even do this on the Beemers (R1200RT and 1600GT)? If you can, you’re in the same boat.
Now, you take a bike like the XCT — with class-leading floorboard length — or the Burger — with floorboards, and your feet have no responsibilities at all, what with the twist-and-go scooter — and that’s relaxed touring.
The Venture looks as if it has reasonable floorboards. If it has a decent lean angle, like the XCT, than I think it would work.
My point here is that those folks who want to compare the Venture to 1600GT, or even the Wing, well, I think that’s some apples and oranges going on here. They certainly don’t define relaxed touring the way I do. I just don’t want my feet locked into one position for more than an hour, and I don’t want to ride spread-eagled, either.
One minor nit I have, as some have mentioned, is the suspension adjustment. I disagree with someone who said that once you get it right, you leave it there. I adjust the suspension for two-up vs. solo, and for twisties vs. superslabs. I read somewhere (I think on the Canadian Yammy site) that the knob is behind an easy-to-remove panel, or something like that. I modified the Vic so that I don’t have to mess with a panel.
And I happen to have a quote that Yamaha itself made, concerning the 2014 FJR1300ES: …”features an all-new electronically adjustable suspension to take the bother out of adjusting the suspensions to fit different riding conditions and bring greater convenience to touring.”
Um, that was three years ago, on a bike costing thousands less. So I’m not thrilled with that.
I’m no longer in the market for a big boat — I already have the XCT — but if I were I’d give serious consideration to the new Venture.
In addition to the suspension adjustment method on the Venture, I don’t like the class-leading weight, and I’d prefer water-cooled.
But — after an actual test-ride or two, or three — if it felt light on its feet at parking lot speeds (or stopped), and had good handling and good ground clearance, and didn’t feel cramped (I’m about average size, and yet I feel cramped on the H-D baggers — ride ’em all the time at Americade, and even rented one on vacation), and didn’t feel that it was class-leading in generating heat, then I think Yammy may have built a good competitor in this field.
Frankly the Honda ST300, which is water cooled, is the hottest bike I’ve ever owned. Even a water cooled engine can generate quite a bit of heat when it’s buried inside a fairing, and the radiators can also dump heat on you.
“ST1300”
Good seeing you at Americade. I am keeping my CAR, but put my money down on the new Venture.
Jim
Other sources report this bike makes 126 foot pounds, not the 122 foot pounds of torque reported here, at a mere 2500 rpm’s. Why I find much of what this bike offers of interest, I am not thrilled by the 34 mpg figure given by Yamaha especially since mileage figures are usually optimistic, if anything.
I think it’s really obvious that what Yamaha is attempting to do here is compete in the HD/Indian market. Right down to the air/oil cooled engine and the price range. If you look at the marketing efforts of those companies, you can see that they aim to appeal to a specific demography as well as it’s attitudes. Owning a specific motorcycle doesn’t make you special or better than those that ride other brands of motorcycles. If you visit used motorcycle web sites, you will see them loaded with bikes that people overpaid for. The owners realized that what they were sold was an illusion of a lifestyle or a personality change that didn’t exist. If it made them anything, it may be a sucker. It’s just my opinion here so don’t flame out on me but, Yamaha should listen less to their marketing gurus. Wait a couple of years and you will see that the people who buy in that market don’t buy for the same reasons as those of us who love our metric bikes. You will get a new Venture for a lot less than today’s entry price or the product will cease to exist. Victory is evidence of this.
You are wise…
We’re not all seeking a lifestyle, ore image. I ride these kind of bikes because as a tall rider I find them comfortable, their ergos allow you to stretch out. Other styles of bikes try to fold you up into a compact shape that has me jumping out of bed with leg cramps during the night.
I can understand that Dan. That was the reason I bought A Suzuki C109 in 2008. It has a seat that could fit 2 of my skinny rear ends on it. I was merely pointing out the niche that manufacturers like Indian and HD have carved out for themselves and my feeling that metric manufacturers don’t need to compete in that niche. I have always owned metric bikes because they incorporated good value and engineering. Go to Indian’s web site and the first thing you see is a marketing statement that says “muscle through the crowd” as if riding an Indian sets you apart from the crowd who ride those “other” bikes. They use this marketing approach to justify raking you over the coals to own one. This has never been the Japanese way from my experience. So, I don’t feel Yamaha needs to participate in that ‘faux” marketing world. Yamaha already has a loyal following and can draw in much more customers with the traditional “bang for the buck” marketing they have always had. It’s disappointing to see them try and copy those guys just to compete in their world. But then, maybe I’m just missing the whole point of it all.
Reliablity by brand
Brand Percent failed
Yamaha/Star 11%
Suzuki 12
Honda 12
Kawasaki 15
Victory 17
Harley-Davidson 26
Triumph 29
Ducati 33
BMW 40
Can-Am 42 http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2015/04/who-makes-the-most-reliable-motorcycle/index.htm
The tuning forks are going to have a difficult time keeping up with demand until the majors get going on aggressive redesigns. This is the way things happen in a competitive universe. Arguing about features and pricing will have little effect.
This is a coup for yamaha.
My 2 cents,
I have owned two, second generation Yamaha Royal Star Ventures, that I put nearly 120,000 miles on with -0- problems. They were awesome touring bikes. The V-4 motor was smooth as silk, and offered tons of high range power.
However, by the time I traded in my second Venture a couple of years ago on an adventure bike, the technology was getting very long in the tooth. Yamaha had made virtually no changes in the bike since they debuted back in 1999.
The second gen Ventures, while being phenomenal Interstate bikes, handled like a PIG in parking lots, were very top heavy, and had a wide seat that made their 31 inch seat height seem more like 36 inches. They definitely took some getting used to, and you had better be paying attention at low speeds when coming to a stop.
It seems to me that Yamaha has hit a home run with this new Venture. They have clicked every box on the wish list of MOST Venture riders, and then some.
It has a huge V Twin that, that likely has it’s roots in the Stratoliner/Roadliner motor. Having demoed Strats twice at Daytona bikeweek, I can assure you, this bike should have neck snapping torque just about anywhere below 70 mph. And torque is what it’s all about for most buyers. V twins provide it in spades, and that is the main reason why Harleys are so popular.
The 27 inch seat height should make even the shortest riders happy and thoroughly banish the Venture’s reputation for top heaviness. The infotainment center, particulary on the Transcontinental model, seems to be state of the art. The bike has heated grips and seats, traction control, dual riding modes, a reverse gear for parking, and a dual zone sound system. And oh yes, it has an oil cooler, so it is not ENTIRELY air cooled.
Let’s not forget the electric adjustable windshield! It’s also lit up like a Christmas tree, both front and rear.
And Yamahas are known for their legendary reliability.
I’m sure I’m forgetting some other very nice features.
Sure it’s a little pricey, but it’s in the same range as the Goldwing and Harley Ultra Limited, and at this point, has features the others can only dream about.
Mega kudos to Yamaha.
One of these new Ventures just may be in my future.
No, it’s not a BMW. Nor is it meant to be. The Venture is not a sport tourer. It is a Cruiser-type touring bike. They are totally different animals.
My original 2006 yamaha royal star tour deluxe as well as the venture did come with a full 5 year bumper to bumper warranty. If you read fine print on the new venture it comes with a 1 year and extendable warranty of up to 4 more years that you have to buy, that’s why I didn’t buy a victory vision because it only came with 1 year and you can buy more years. Golding and the Vulcan come with a 3 year and the Ultra classic comes with 2 year warranty and you can buy extended warranties for those 3 also. I waited so long for this yamaha to come out, was on the edge of my seat watching the new bike that looks so good only to see the 1 year warranty. For 26k you should get at least 3 years if not the 5 that came with the old venture and the tour deluxe.
Will keep waiting, maybe the Goldwing will get a 6 speed
One thing you need to realize is that YES (Yamaha Extended Service) is as good as the original warranty. There is no deductible and everything is covered as in the original warranty. I have had YES on my bikes and the really cool thing is they pay the dealers retail parts prices and full labor reimbursement. They love getting bikes in under this Yamaha contract. Too bad there are so few claims with Yamaha, they make money on the sale of those who purchase it. Yamaha seldom needs anything other than normal rider maintenance. I will still buy this bike if it only had a one year warranty without the YES.
Kudos for wanting to pay for a warranty you should be getting because your willing to pay a cars price for a motorcycle as well as a company enticement to get you to buy one. If your not independently wealthy then you must work for Yamaha. Either way if the new bike is as bullet proof as my Royal Star or the last Venture with the 5 year bumper to bumper warranty from new purchase than they must not think the new bike will hold up as well. Even a 3 year factory warranty to match Goldwing or the Vulcan would have said they are at least least keeping up with the Jones’. Again you shouldn’t have to pay extra hard earned money for something that should be included from the factory on a bike that is supposed to be a step above the rest.
You cannot get a car with this many options for any where near this price. Yes, I wish it were 15K but that is not the case. The warranty is not given thinking you will experience issues with the bike but shows the confidence Yamaha has that you will have no problems. They have paid the 4 year YES program for you in advance. I realize that nothing is free but one thing I do realize is that Yamaha has put it on the line building this bike for its customers and I am one of them. No, I do not work for Yamaha.
I think you better read the fine print on the Web site, comes with 1 year warranty and you can purchase 4 more years with the yes extended warranty. They are not ” giving” you the 4 years of Yahama Extended Service, you buy it. If they were ” giving” it to you it would just be a 5 year warranty like the one that came on my bike from Yamaha.
Yup.
I guess that one way to look at this is Yamaha MIGHT expect this bike to actually be RIDDEN more than the US national average of around 3000 miles per year (knowing a lot of riders, and how much some actually ride, I’m really surprised it’s that high, I’d guess half of that for many).
BMW, as far as I know, is the only bike maker that puts a mileage limit on their warranties, knowing how many miles some of their riders put on annually.
Actually you do not purchase the extra 4 years. Re-read the warranty. I has one year factory warranty and four years of the YES warranty included in the price.
OMG! Another H_D wannabe!!!
I think this will surpass the HD brand.
Only if it starts pissing oil on itself.
If people chose this over a Davidson, I sure hope they don’t modify the exhaust and make them into noise makers!
I hear the sound clip of the bike and talked to the Star Touring people that actually heard and saw it. It does not need pipes.
So, are you saying the bike comes stock as a noise maker? In my experience people generally don’t modify their exhaust unless they want to be noticed. They need the attention of others. ‘Hey, here I am.”
Yes and many to the point of being obnoxious.
Actually, I modified my exhaust for a cooler ride. I added a ceramic coated, catless head pipe and Power Commander, and had the bike dyno tuned. Unfortunately they had to put a hole through the baffles to get the probe in the exhaust for the dyno tune. I like to ride with earphones, I like the AKG Y23’s and I’ve tried a lot including Shure, MEE, Plugfones, S Plugs, which would be good if they weren’t always plugging up with earwax, and I don’t like the exhaust note competing with my music. Been thinking of finding another set of stock slip ons to put on.
How about leaving the stock exhaust on and being more considerate to others peace and quiet. Your freedom to make noise intrudes on others freedom for peace and quiet. That is one of the reasons people don’t like motorcylists.
There is a joker down the road from me who makes noise to let his friends know he is coming over or when he leaves. Real cool aye.
Personally, I think this is a great looking bike and I can’t wait to see them on the dealership floors and road. If the bike you are riding puts a smile on your face, then it’s serving its purpose. The slogan is live to ride, ride to live. It’s not a brand specific statement. Respect others choice of ride as much as you respect your own. Road kings, ultra classics & road glides are cool. So are goldwings, FJR 1300s, concourses, ventures, and royal star tour deluxe. Ride what you like and stop hating on others who ride something different. Forcing differences of opinion on others is one of the things tearing our country apart. Respect the fact that we all love riding motorcycles and if we were in a group ride together we’d all be having a great time. Stop comparing all the different brands and pick the one you personally like.
I wonder if Yamaha solved the backfire with that engine. The sad thing is, Yamaha will not make any changes to that bike for the next six or seven years. It will stay as is and the tech will pass it by.
Look at the Goldwing, last major update was 2001, and they have done nothing with the ST1300.
As a former owner of a V1100, Royal Star Dlx, RS Warrior and a Roadliner, I am thrilled that Mama Yama has finally FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME, PUT ABS ON A CRUISER!
Many times over the last 10 years S.T.A.R. members asked Cypress for ABS, 6 speeds and to stop shrinking the fuel capacity while increasing displacement. Looks like some of those pleas have been answered.
BUT…..956lb…..Really….?
The fuel economy is not a big deal to me. I drive an Acura MDX gets 22 MPG but is super comfortable. If I was worried about fuel economy I would buy a Prius. Bikes are recreation to me not basic transportation.
I am now riding a Kawasaki Vulcan 1700 Nomad. I came off a V-star 1300 and sometimes wish I would have kept it. The Kawasaki has not been bike I had hope for. Without going into details, I could have purchased the new Venture with all the accessories and repairs on the Kaw. The dependability (in my experience) of Yamaha has be great. The style and the features of the new Venture are more than I expected. The only thing that is really lacking (for me) is the heal shifter. They want to sell it separately. I am interested and looking forward to the Yamaha Star Venture.
I had a Yam Roadliner and the heel shifter is a spoon shaped metal piece that intrudes on the floorboard. I took mine off early. Bet you could find one for free if you looked around for your local Star Touring Chapter.m.
It’s been covered but why air cooled, why a v twin? Can it go in stop and go traffic? I presently have a venture, V4, Water cooled. These were two big selling points. What does this offer that in not there in the Indian or Harley. I ride with friends on air cooled bikes and have gotten caught in traffic they have to sop I did not. The fan kicked on and everything was good. Is the heat going to stay away from me? I don’t really see answers, the changes are really radical compared to earlier generations. I’ll have to wait and see but soo far the selling point that made me Buy a 85 venture then a 2008 venture are gone. Now it is just one of many.
A V4 motor and water cooling would add weight to an already heavy bike, as would a shaft drive. V twins have great low end torque, good for touring bikes, so I have no issue with that. I do wonder how they dealt with the heat of a big, air, oil cooled twin, even Harley uses partial water cooling in some of their bikes now.
Knowing Yamaha they took all of this under consideration. They never half do things.
I agree Yamaha makes good bikes, I’m just curious how they dealt with the heat issue. I’m surprised that their solution, whatever it is, hasn’t been discussed at all.
We’re curious as well. EIC Tuttle is currently in Idaho at the press launch, where they’re doing a multi-day two-up touring ride. Temps are in the upper 90s, so it’ll be a good test of how the bike handles heat. You can expect a full report when he returns next week.
Hello Jenny, I look forward to the report. A dislike I do have with this bike is the claimed 34 mpg, this is 9 mpg less than the 43 mpg claimed for a Harley Ultra Limited. I also think a bike in this price range should come in more than 2 color choices.
Has no one seen the photos of this bike?? Is everyone blind?? THIS THING IS ASS UGLY!!
Funny.. The old adage rings true, “beauty is in the eye of the beholder.” I find it exactly what I would want to buy! Wait, I did buy one and it will be delivered, I hope, in August. This is much the same as the auto industry and I have seen some butt ugly cars being driven by some very happy owners.
I wholely agree, but I find any bike with “pods” or a faring hanging off that looks like it’s been added as a second thought to be incredibly ugly, then again, I’m sure my bikes aren’t anything that those who like this bike would want to look at. I’m glad there are enough varieties that everyone can find something they like.
To each his own. I like the looks enough to have ordered one already. There are some popular bikes that have looks that do not appeal to me at all. For example, I do not care for the look of the Indian Chieftain or the HD Road Glide, but I can respect that the people that buy them like what they bought.
This bike is probably the opening salvo. Water cooled heads are likely next (look at the air intakes on the fairing sides) since the Feds will demand it in the fullness of time. A measly 2mm increase in bore puts the displacement well over 1,900cc so it wouldn’t be surprising if that occurs as well.
It only gets 34 mpg now, the Goldwing 35. There’s a price to pay for this much displacement. I’ll take the smaller displacement and 9 more mpg that the Ultra Limited gets.
If my idea of saving fuel was an issue I would buy a Prius. This is a hobby, one of my other hobbies is bass fishing and the Yamaha 250 on my bass boat gets 3 MPG.
To a lot of us, though, gas mileage IS an important factor. It might not be the first thing we look at, but when you’re using your bike for more than Sunday cruises or bar hopping (ie: hobby), gas becomes a real expense and a very real consideration. Plus you have to wonder how a bike can get only a little over half the MPG of some other bikes that actually produce more power than this one? Are the manufacturing tolerances THAT bad as to be THAT inefficient?
As far as air/oil cool, I currently have a Victory Cross Country Tourer and it’s cooler than my previous water cooled bikes. I recently went across the country and one day was 109. I’ve been in 113 all day before. I’ve put 50k miles on it so far. So if properly engineered, air/oil cooled is bulletproof and not hotter than water cooled. In fact, when they first designed the victory cooling system, it was so efficient that the oil cooler had to be reduced because the bike in some cases would come up to peak operating temperature. Yes, most air cooled Harleys will roast you in the right situations. It will be interesting to test ride one. I’m thinking my next bike will be an Indian RoadMaster or this bike. I put too many miles and travel too far on a bike to consider a Harley. My brother has had 3 since I bought this bike in 2012 and 2 have had issues. The last one, the Milwaukee 8, motor went out at 700 miles before it was even taken in for the break in. Oil pump went out. I’ve owned all the bikes over the years except Yamaha and so far the Victory and Honda has been the best from a reliability standpoint. I don’t care about MPG or seat height. I want power, grand clearance, reliability and great handling. I drive hard and don’t like scraping.
Meant wouldn’t come up to peak temp. That was in the early development days.
Unless someone has developed a radiator that dumps hot air behind you, they all dump hot air in front of you, which means you’re riding thru it. My ST1300, a water cooled bike, is the hottest bike I’ve ever owned, heat on the legs, heat thru the seat. That’s one of the reasons when I went looking for a new bike that I didn’t want a fully faired motorcycle, trapped heat. That and I prefer cross winds to blow thru the frame of my bike, instead of striking the side fairing and trying to blow the bike off the road
Well, nothing stirs controversial comments and conversation like a new motorcycle! I ride a 2011 Royal Star Venture (my third Yamaha) that has always been my dream motorcycle. I am in love with the looks and upgrades of the new Star Venture. A bit shocked at the V-Twin versus the 4 and air cooled over water, but they sure did upgrade all the tech stuff on this one. A bit pricy, but wait a year and you’ll probably find em used and still be able to retain the warranty for a reduced price. Beautiful machine!
Only has a 1 year warranty and have to buy the other 4 years with their yamaha YES program. See the fine print on the web site.
Not the five year unlimited mile warranty that came with my royal star tour deluxe, little brother of the venture.
You can get a honda or kawasaki with 3 years and buy additional so you could say they say they come with 7 years.
You do not pay for the extended warranty!
OK so I went and looked at the new bike, no you don’t pay for the extra 4 years, they are (going to throw that in) according to the Yamaha rep at the bike promo in Tampa 2 weeks ago. The factory is 1 year my factory was 5 years. The yes warranty is picked up by the dealers according to rep, sounded really hoakie if you asked me. Anyway to much cheap plastics up by the tank as well as little rubber covers for the locks on the saddle bags and other things that really cheapen it up. Personally wouldn’t touch it the way it is as well as the convoluted warranty. On a good note, the new goldwing is coming out with the 6 speed and better look so will be going for that instead. Sorry yamaha I will miss you.
So many fixed opinions from experts who haven’t ridden both — or either.
My input: There is more than one riding style for cross-country touring, and one of those fits the BJW 1600s, another fits V-twins (I ride both a K1200LT, a predecessor to the BMW K1600, and an Indian Roadmaster — both serve the same purpose but approach it from two different directions, both valid.)
The F1600B is speed-governed to 101 mph. With a trunk box, the recommended top speed is only 80 mph (per sticker inside the trunk box.)
BMW now enjoys one of the poorest reliability ratings in the US market, probably attributable to the complexity of the engineering and maybe even to higher demands of its market members.
And I’ll wait until I’ve ridden both, if I ever do, to pontificate about which is the better machine.
Oh — and the only snide personally – directed post above came in support of Harley. The brand is improving; its subculture . . . . ??
The issue for me is how in the hell do pick it up after I drop it?
I like the bike. It really looks capable of adventure. And ive always liked Yamaha. But I know I’ll drop it, more than once.
Have a Stratoliner with 40,000 miles had oil changes and tires great motorcycle